Had a flashback of lying on my back in a puddle of rusty warm antifreeze with the back of my head all wet, glob of crud in my right eye, in a dark parking lot.....trying to stretch on a bottom radiator hose made in Pakistan or SOME place from a discount auto parts chain store. Like trying to strecth a gnat's a$$ over a Coke bottle, as my Dad usta say. I mighta used a glob of grease off of a lower ball joint grease fitting----sorry Bill. I've managed to crack the solder seam on the radiator outlet twisting 'em around a couple of times. Well, once I wrung one off trying to save a good looking used hose instead of slicing it like I should've.