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I live in NJ and I am considering buying a 69 Nova that is currently parked in Connecticut with its owner. Our DMV is shut off to phone calls (Thanks Covid), so I am asking the forum :

Has Anyone ever obtained a NJ Title, by presenting a Bill of Sale as the substitute for a, in this case, Connecticut title?
Is this a doable, feasible option OR am I clinging to a pipe dream with a huge heartache included ? My potential Seller is willing to sign a NJ and CT Bill of Sale, but it may not mean anything if its not acceptable to my DMV.

FYI, I cannot believe the number of ads with Titles that are missing when the Novas are put up for sale. It blows my mind, but I guess they just go missing ...

Thanks for any input given ....
 

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That goes for all older vehicles that hasn't changed hands a lot, they just get misplaced over the years.
 

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In TN, it is very easy to apply for a lost (replacement) title, however, I also see many ads for cars with no title. In some cases this may be because the title was pledged to secure a debt (title loan) and these sales will be fraudulent sales. I'm sure there are folks who have really just misplaced the title, but if so, the proper remedy is to obtain a replacement which cost just $10 i think. It used to be possible to obtain a new title by "abandonment" by running newspaper ad for 3 weeks and filing proper papers at DMV but now this can only be done by a licensed dealer. I think Alabama is a bill of sale State and stolen cars used to be run through there but may no longer be true. You should be able to check your DMV website for current information, or check with a local car dealer.
 

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Thanks Rustfarmer. The Nova in question was sold and I found another one in NJ. The seller says that the Title is from PA, so he never did the deed to change it to his official ownership ; ) It's tough enough to get thru the "long distance" buyer blues, but that BS with the Title drives me insane! I am so glad that my search is over, and that my Nova will be coming home this Saturday. Can't wait ......
 

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I live in NJ and I am considering buying a 69 Nova that is currently parked in Connecticut with its owner. Our DMV is shut off to phone calls (Thanks Covid), so I am asking the forum :

Has Anyone ever obtained a NJ Title, by presenting a Bill of Sale as the substitute for a, in this case, Connecticut title?
Is this a doable, feasible option OR am I clinging to a pipe dream with a huge heartache included ? My potential Seller is willing to sign a NJ and CT Bill of Sale, but it may not mean anything if its not acceptable to my DMV.

FYI, I cannot believe the number of ads with Titles that are missing when the Novas are put up for sale. It blows my mind, but I guess they just go missing ...

Thanks for any input given ....
 

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You can get a title with a Bill of Sale if the Bill of Sale is from a state that did no issue car titles till the middle 70's. You can find out what states do that on the web. Georgia is a non title state for cars over 25 years old. If you trust the guy selling the car then just get a Bill of Sale from one of these states. These old cars without titles should not just go to the crusher because of no title.
 

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qwertgfdsa : It still concerns me that I have to be sketchy just to get a title. That's just me ; ) I brought my 70 home last Saturday and what made it awesome was I got a PA title that was good to go, no BS, VIN matches, the VIN plate was legible, yada yada yada : ) With the painful process that is NJ DMV right now (appt only), I am looking to get it thru as easy as possible. I would want to meet the person that successfully got a title with a BoS in NJ. I am not saying its not possible, it's just a major concern when you are buying a car and you just want some joy rather than drama. I think the DMV process is necessary, but unfortunately, the people that play by the rules get stuck with the red tape for people that are trying to scam past them.
 

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I bought a 64 Malibu SS with no VIN in Canada with a Canadian title. Drove it back and went hoop jumping with Arizona MVD for awhile but all was good in the end. Only took 2 months and they impounded the car twice each time for 24 hours. I still have the Canadian title, but not the car. Sold it a few years after purchasing. It went to NJ ☺
 

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Philip : I cannot imagine how much that must have pissed you off watching your car be taken away. I have always bought cars with Titles, so I guess I am ignorant to the ways of getting thru the DMV red tape. I found this on our DMV site, so I guess anything is possible :

To Title and Register a vehicle that was Pre-Owned in a state that does not issue titles
You will need all of the items listed in the first section (10 total), plus the following:
  • A notarized statement from the seller to the buyer that includes all of the following information about the vehicle sale: year manufactured, make, VIN, date of sale, and price of purchase. Both parties must sign the statement prior to having it notarized.
  • A pencil tracing or a printed-out photograph of the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) plate.
  • The last registration card that the seller has for the vehicle showing that the vehicle was registered and owned by the seller.
  • Completed Universal Title Application (Form OS/SS-UTA).
My only concern is the "leap of faith" involved when attempting to get your new car home, and be able to make it yours when it gets there : ) The super collectors would read this post and smile, because this is probably normal for them. Iown an old Corvette and now a 1970 Nova. Let me tell you, I am grateful for both of them and they have Titles. Wouldn't have it any other way .......
 

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At one time, I had problems with getting a title. That was about 10 years ago. But then I bought a car at a very good price. Therefore, the game was worth the candle. Now everything is much easier. You do a car vin check Get free VIN check of your vehicle , turn to specialists and everything is ready within a short time.
 

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I too am from the great state of NJ, and anyone who doesn't live here has no idea how difficult it is to do anything at DMV. I found a 69 that I am wanting to buy, and the owner has lost the title. He has owned the car for 15-20 years, but never titled the car in his name when he bought it (from a guy in NJ). I have been waiting 9 months for a title search and a replacement title. I'm not sure if it is from COVID or just the state I live in, but I can't seem to get any responses or answers on how much longer it will be. My advise to anyone in NJ is to only buy clean easily transferable documented cars if you wish to title them here. I have been told to take the car to another state and title it there and then return to NJ and transfer it. Anyone ever done this?
 

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It's DMV, LOL, don't matter what state you're in they hate people, anything to give you grief is their motto, lol..
 
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