***do not buy blueprint engines*** - Nova Tech
Nova Tech  
Find Nova Parts at SS396.com     
GROUND UP & SS396.com         
Official Sponsor of Team Nova
   

Auto Insurance



Engine General Engine Discussion.

Novas.net is the premier Chevrolet Nova Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old Aug 22nd, 19, 06:26 PM
tbone67 tbone67 is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 2
tbone67 has a positive reputation
Default ***do not buy blueprint engines***

I bought a Blueprint 383 crate motor and it hydro locked after 150 miles over a 4 month period. They told me right away that because I installed it myself you wouldn't cover labor. Ok, but I had a Chevrolet dealership do the repair work because I didn't know exactly what I was in for. They started taking apart the motor and discovered that the intake manifold bolts were loose (came with the intake) and the heads were old pieces of junk. Major signs of electrolysis and multiple pins installed from crack repairs. This is a high 405 hp engine and you shouldn't be using junk heads waiting to fail. Blueprint kept insisting I overheated the motor and that's why the heads warped. This motor never overheated!!! The junk heads that with ELECTROLYSIS and PINS from crack repairs were the cause of this whole thing. The enormous amount of electrolysis on the head and the loose intake manifold bolts with heat and pressure from normal use caused the intake gasket to leak and let coolant flow. This was driven for 150 miles over a 4 month period. Ridiculous!! Keep in mind I bought this motor because it comes with "NEW CAST IRON VORTEC HEADS"!!!!!!!! Buyer beware…it doesn't! Also the cross hatching is gone in the cylinders and they are shining. How can that be gone in 150 miles. I question if it was ever even honed as they say. I'm surprised this thing held together during the so-called dyno run. Blueprint gave me the whole rundown on how they air check everything and torque everything, maybe it held together from them but fell apart for me. I bought this motor because I wanted a reputable company to stand behind their product with a warranty. I didn't want to have some local shop or shade-tree mechanic build one and then have he said/she said issues if a problem would arise. The joke is on me! I understand they can't pay out every claim that comes through the door but I am getting the shaft here. Absolutely depressing and now I am out $2k for labor repairs. The Chevrolet dealership agrees with me and also is disappointed with Blueprint not standing behind their product. I have gone back and forth with Blueprint Engines on why this motor hydro-locked and get no reasonable resolution. I watch all these automotive shows with Blueprint sponsorship and advertisements, I was excited and proud to buy my Blueprint motor...not anymore. I highly encourage that you shop for a different engine builder because you don’t know what you’re paying for until it is too late.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Electrolysis and Heli-Coil.jpg
Views:	27
Size:	169.7 KB
ID:	16813   Click image for larger version

Name:	Pin 1.jpg
Views:	27
Size:	71.1 KB
ID:	16815   Click image for larger version

Name:	Pin 2.jpg
Views:	24
Size:	102.4 KB
ID:	16817   Click image for larger version

Name:	Cylinders pic 2.jpg
Views:	27
Size:	48.1 KB
ID:	16819  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Cylinders.jpg
Views:	25
Size:	61.4 KB
ID:	16821  
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old Aug 23rd, 19, 11:50 AM
Big Dave Big Dave is offline
Site Moderator
Dave
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tampa FL
Posts: 17,373
Big Dave has a positive reputation
Default Re: ***do not buy blueprint engines***

Electrolysis is a chemical reaction. Mileage has no affect upon it. Time, chemicals in the coolant and any electrical charge affect the rate of corrosion. Coolant goes bad (becomes acidic with age and has to be replaced every two years). Addition of aluminum in the system requires newer aluminum friendly anti freeze, not your fathers green anti freeze. Aluminum can promote electrolysis, and it goes faster in the aluminum part so I expect your manifold will need to be resurfaced to seal.

Heat cycling causes bolts to loosen. that is why you retorque all bolts a half hour after break in and again a day after use to reset the bolt stretch. (this is why header bolts fall out all the time unless they are pined.

Your experience is unusual, as there are thousands of satisfied blue print engine owners that are very satisfied.

Big Dave
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old Aug 27th, 19, 04:12 PM
tbone67 tbone67 is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 2
tbone67 has a positive reputation
Default Re: ***do not buy blueprint engines***

Well I have GREAT NEWS!!! Blueprint has been in contact with me and we came to a resolution that I am absolutely thrilled about. After discussing the details and explaining the situation that I went through with my new engine, they agreed to pay my repair bill in full. Blueprint apologized for using the heads to begin with and said they never should have been installed on my engine in the first place. Along with that, they met with their assembly and quality control teams to make sure that something like this is to never happen again and to use only good quality reman heads for the builds. Also they met with the retailer who is advertising “New Vortec Heads” for this particular engine and the retailer has since changed the layout to no longer advertise “New” heads. They were very sympathetic to the whole ordeal and wanted to ensure me that they do stand behind their builds. I cannot be happier with the outcome and I truly believe now that they do stand behind their product. They have gone as far as to offer any assistance in the future if some issue would arise. Again, I am thoroughly pleased with the outcome and couldn’t be happier. Thank you Blueprint!
Reply With Quote
 
  #4  
Old Sep 8th, 19, 01:32 PM
Dave Ray Dave Ray is offline
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 16
Dave Ray has a positive reputation
Default Re: ***do not buy blueprint engines***

Yup, second time is the trick, never the first.

Hydro locking is a loading of liquid into a set volume area and stopping parts from free movement.

If this was caused by coolant into the bore, yes, engine builder should look at it.

If caused by excess raw fuel, engine builder isn't responsible.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old Sep 8th, 19, 01:46 PM
Aukai Aukai is offline
Tech Team
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 78
Aukai has a positive reputation
Default Re: ***do not buy blueprint engines***

tbone thanks for the follow up.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:00 PM.


© 2009 AutoForums
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.