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raildawg856
May 4th, 08, 02:38 AM
i just found some rot in my floorpan , back and front, what is a good fix? or sould i just replace whole floor.i should i tackle this myself or find a body shop

SHIFTY4
May 4th, 08, 02:41 AM
depending on how bad it is and how much you might be able to cut it out and patch it... full floor pans are a bit of work.


tear out all the interior, clean it up real good and inspect everything...

raildawg856
May 4th, 08, 02:50 AM
okay as soon as the sun get up im out there stripping her down,lol i was so happy when my uncle gave me this car,never knew i had to take it all apart, hope i remember how to put her back together

SHIFTY4
May 4th, 08, 02:56 AM
i'd recommend checking the restoration suppliers for an "Assembly Manual" and a "Fisher Body Manual"


check my signature link, up towards the left top area is a link for "Greg's manuals" you can get the Fisher manual there...

raildawg856
May 4th, 08, 03:03 AM
thanx alot this is a great site . i will be here everday learning with you guyz help

SHIFTY4
May 4th, 08, 03:05 AM
glad ta be of assistance ;)

NIGHTSHADE
May 5th, 08, 10:17 PM
If you are inexperienced, then the floors are the best place to start. This is my 1st real job with a mig welder. And I'll have to disagree with John, the full length floor pans were actually very easy to install. And remember, this was my first time welding. Did it in a couple days, but only a few hours worth of work.

Before.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/nightshade63/Secret%20weapon/IMG_0197.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/nightshade63/Secret%20weapon/IMG_0199.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/nightshade63/Secret%20weapon/IMG_0196.jpg

During.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/nightshade63/Secret%20weapon/IMG_1064.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/nightshade63/Secret%20weapon/IMG_1065.jpg

After.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/nightshade63/Secret%20weapon/hump0.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/nightshade63/Secret%20weapon/IM000905.jpg

4 speed hump.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/nightshade63/Secret%20weapon/hump1.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/nightshade63/Secret%20weapon/hump2.jpg

Not too hard at all.

raidmagic
May 5th, 08, 10:23 PM
Nice work Jeff.

NIGHTSHADE
May 5th, 08, 10:25 PM
Nice work Jeff.

Thanks, since these pics the crappy welds have been re-welded.

NIGHTSHADE
May 5th, 08, 11:11 PM
When I say a few hours, I was grosely underestimating. It was meant as not 2 full days worth of work. To do my hack job.

Keep in mind a professional job will look oh so much better.

raildawg856
May 7th, 08, 11:20 PM
hey i just got back from the doctors,lol i tried the meg welder thing on scrap sheet of metal to get the hang of it ; later that night my eyez were itching so bad then i couldnt open them .then they started to water really bad.so guyz please use the welder mask even if you cant see what your doing ...trust me!!!

higleyml
May 8th, 08, 10:58 AM
hey i just got back from the doctors,lol i tried the meg welder thing on scrap sheet of metal to get the hang of it ; later that night my eyez were itching so bad then i couldnt open them .then they started to water really bad.so guyz please use the welder mask even if you cant see what your doing ...trust me!!!

Flash burn is a nasty thing. I agree with Jeff about floors being a great place to start when you’re learning to weld sheet metal. Just take your time and measure twice before you cut. It is a bit of work but what isnt? Do not do large area beads when doing your welds, I found an inch to inch and a half then move to another area and do the same thing. Make sure to allow cooling time between welds so you do not get a bunch of warping.

SHIFTY4
May 8th, 08, 01:08 PM
quality welding equipment is a must also... i have a cheapo Harbor Freight unit that i've attempted to weld with and forget thinking you'll get a quality job from one... also practicing on some scrap 18ga is better than blowing holes in the floor your trying to fix. i never said it wasn't doable, i said it was a bit of work... think real hard before tackling... saying it's 2 days worth of work i think is misleading... you can spend two days just cutting out the floors and trimming it etc to fit proper. then the pans need to go in, supported/positioned/clamped(whatever) so they stay put prior to making them permanent... i don't think it's really something i'd tackle as a first time project although it can be done... i'd think about patching it first, if the patch work comes out to your satisfaction then maybe it could be reconsidered but to just jump in and cut out the floors is a big decision... IF you screw it up, did you remove the pans properly, did you leave the proper metal in for reinstalling the new pans etc... if it has to go to a shop to fix all that will be a consideration. if anything you've done isn't to the satisfaction of the repairing shop, you'll pay cash for those errors to have them fix correctly.

maybe the best thing to do is to ask a shop what they charge to do the job... that should give you an idea of how much work a real professional thinks it is...

i think i'd first clean it up & inspect the car to see what's needed and go from there...

SS 396
May 8th, 08, 09:23 PM
Listen to Johnny,Wisdom has came with that OLD AGE.

raildawg856
May 8th, 08, 10:30 PM
well i think i have my plate full for trhe next few weeks with welding and sanding, can some tell me how to post pics so i can show yo9u guyz the progress?

SHIFTY4
May 9th, 08, 01:23 AM
Listen to Johnny,Wisdom has came with that OLD AGE.

Joe, that's a quirk, a one time deal... i actually think i get dumber by the minute :eek: :D

can some tell me how to post pics so i can show you guyz the progress?

take a look here, this thread will explain what ya need ta know ;)

http://www.novas.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1896

rubadub
May 10th, 08, 03:41 AM
I have some stuff on floor pans on my website, its a chevelle, but it shows butt weld clamps and what size drill bit and hex head screw to pull the pans down, just don't use a lot of screws like I did, unless your retired and thats all you have to do is drive screws.:)

Anyway, there might be a tip or two that could help you out.

Rob