people are nuts
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180082526073&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008

can you believe this seems a little ridinkulous to me :wacko: :noway:

TH400 cross-member's don't grow on trees. If you want a BBC in a Nova or more importantly in your high dollar, spare no expense restored numbers matching first generation Camaro; then it is just the cost of doing business. $202.00 really wasn't that high a bid, because reproductions new cost pretty much the same.


Big Dave

Those look to be a close match to the one in my 75. What is the spacing on the mount holes? Mine are 33" center to center. The mount is already offset, just only has 1 slot instead of 2.

I think I finally figured out why the factory offset the engine/trans in the 4th gen Novas..........They need the space for the steering shaft when they changed to front steer.

I've seen them go for around 75 bucks for a repoop but now that I think of it if your going that route of all numbers matching then I guess ok my self I've never been into it
I build it for the fun of it dont really care if I used the right colored chaulk on the firewall or if the change in the seats is from the same year as the car
Now I'm not knockin those guys but some take it to the extreme
For example I knew a guy that had a 69 chevelle SS
he wouldn't replace the rear quarters because he didnt want to mess with original paint
one day he was out working on it and to try and strike up a conversation I said "getting it tuned for the drag strip "
he looked at me like I had asked if I could sleep with his wife and daughter and said "this car doesn't go to the strip its a classic" I mean come on cars were made to be driven not sit in garage or ride on a trailer

Sorry for the rant but I get a little carried away with some of the original restoration guys and what its doing to the hobby of street rodding

Jim I feel the same way. I am not knocking the folks that like the numbers, original cars, but I like to have fun with my cars.

Exactly I also talked to a guy this morning he pulled up in a corvette Z06 405 hp and I said that thing must really fly he tells he doesnt know hes never had it over 65
WHAT THE HELL DID YOU BUY IT FOR

I dont know maybe its me I cancelled my Hot Rod mag subscription because I'm sick of looking at slalom times and brake pad distances and what the hell is freakin
G-machine what ever happen to 1/4 mile ETs and 60 foot times

Careful there... ;) It's all good, :yes: if every classic owner was into drag racing their cars, there wouldn't be room on what tracks there are left for everyone. The corner carvers and even drag racers provide orig parts for the numbers and trailer queen set. It takes everyone as a group to influence the government. If the hobby was not made up of all the different sub groups there wouldn't be enough to have a voice against do gooders blaming old cars for the worlds polution problems... WE need each other to survive and to thrive.

Oh, and you best watch out those "G" machines don't need corners to go fast... A few years back I was talking with a friend at teh track who was going up in smoke in his "G" machine running 13's. I suggested he come off the line in 2nd, his next run was in the 11's... :eek:

sorry not trying to cause any controversy I guess I just get a little carried away I know every one has they're own opinion and tastes I'm from the old school of driving it like you stole it and if the part fits and makes it go faster put it on

Everyone builds their car for what they want to do with it. I like to take a car I'm looking at in from all view points. I have a problem seeing a couple of the views, but I don't like to snub it. Building and caring for "your" classic muscle car is like an art form. One guy is into contemporary work while another is into abstract! The guys buying completed cars are the collectors. The shops that build cars for collectors or to sell are the professionals. Then you have the armatures and hobbyists building something that inspires them. Some want acceptance, others feel the need to prove they can do it, and others are just relaxed by it. Life would get boring if all architects built the same design every time, wouldn't it?

no I agree everyone has their own taste and desires and designs like I said I was only stating my own opinion and I know opinions are like bungholes everyones got one and mine is bigger than most but I some times get a hair across bcause with my budget I find it hard to get the parts I need because all the prices have been driven up so high and it seems as soon as some one states its a numbers matching the price jumps threefold so for the average guy just trying to put a car together it makes it a little harder

I agree , its one thing to take care of a car its another to stare at it in a garage all day and never drive it.
As far as the whole cost issue goes you can pretty much blame barrett-jackson for that (i think)cuz millions have watched it and all uh sudden pawpaws 69 4dr lemans is worth $500,000 geeez.i bought a 1969 non ss nova body this year gave $1000!!! for it and felt i got a good deal vs in 2000 i could have bought a 1971 ss chevelle body fo $500 but they sold it before i could get the money up:sad:
So things most certainly have changed.
later:confused:

my first car in 1990 was 69 firebird with pont 350 for 300 bucks I drove the crap outta that thing for three years when that died I junked it for 100 bucks and bought a 64 nova for 150 put a 350 in it got totaled so I found a 68 camaro for 400 and sold it three years later for 750 and thought I made a huge profit

It started before the auctions became televised and the reality TV shows cropped up all over cable TV. Collectors have been at it for a long time, that's why guys have storerooms full of cool parts to offer up on ebay now for big profits. The shows are all a result of the popularity of old cars but they also were just like adding logs to the fire.

After having my current Camaro ('69 ragtop) for about 8 years I am finding the Nova world refreshing, decent projects are still affordable but the parts interchangeability with Camaro and some of the repro parts guys making Nova only parts are driving things up. Stuff like repro "B" pillar trim being sold for $95 is nuts. With a little old school scrounging and time though you can still restore a Nova for about half what it would cost to do a Camaro up until you start talking paint and body work. If you want instant gratification though parts can cost almost as much... Take advantage while you can, another sleeper classic is the Corvair it's not a V8 but if you want to step into a Yenko you can find them for a very reasonable price...

From there I think we all can understand what teens are faced with and why they are finding mom's hand me down Honda so apealing...

another sleeper classic is the Corvair it's not a V8 but if you want to step into a Yenko you can find them for a very reasonable price...



Well not anymore since you just let everyone know about it ;) :D

Crown (if they are still in business) made a mid engine conversion that put a SBC in the back seat of a Corvair to give the 'vette a run for the money. That way you can have a V-8 in your Corvair ("Unsafe at any speed" according to Ralph Nader, but he may not of followed the instructions correctly, being a lawyer and all). :p

Big Dave

After having my current Camaro ('69 ragtop) for about 8 years I am finding the Nova world refreshing, decent projects are still affordable but the parts interchangeability with Camaro and some of the repro parts guys making Nova only parts are driving things up. Stuff like repro "B" pillar trim being sold for $95 is nuts. With a little old school scrounging and time though you can still restore a Nova for about half what it would cost to do a Camaro up until you start talking paint and body work. If you want instant gratification though parts can cost almost as much... Take advantage while you can, another sleeper classic is the Corvair it's not a V8 but if you want to step into a Yenko you can find them for a very reasonable price...

From there I think we all can understand what teens are faced with and why they are finding mom's hand me down Honda so apealing...

The Nova is appreciating quickly these days. I bought my 72 SS body with clear title for around $500.00 2 years ago. No it needs some work, but it already had the quarters done. Granted I am thinking of replacing the partial done on the drivers side with a full. Since it was a none rolling hollow shell I've been in the parts collections for a while now. I looked at taking the body to a profesional shop to get a couple panels replaced, but the cost is way high. I've managed to find a body guy that will do it on the side for me in exchange for some extra parts I've accumulated. I just have to wait until he gets his new shop built which feels like it is taking forever! I've noticed the parts I've collected keep getting more and more expensive. The parts I need I can get reproductions of at this point luckily which means their prices should star fairly consistent. The one piece that has shocked me is the 3rd gen Nova 1/4 window and door trim. Lucky for me I have a complete set for the 72 and actually have a complete extra set for a 73-74. I like to use the 73-74 stuff to practice my straightening and polishing skills on before using the stuff I really need.

As far as my daughter goes, if she is into my Nova as she gets a little older I'm thinking I will start to build her a Camaro using one of those Dynacorn bodies and some of the left over parts I have from my Nova! She is only 4 now so I figure that will be the only way I'll be able to get her a nice classic by the time she is ready to drive.